re:eretz yisrael

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Rabbi: With all due respect, you seem to have it in reverse. The Jews will mot be brought to Israel by the Mashiach, only once all the Jews return will Mashiach come. Not only that, can I make an argument that the real world is not the United States - TV, fast food, convenience stores, etc. Most of the world including Israel does not function like the people do in the United States. We here in the US are in Disney World, the rest of the world is in reality. True, Israel is a secular government, but we are living in the era of Mashiach ben Yosef, not Masiach ben David, and so we are in the midst of the physical geulah, which requires a secular government. Also, how can we expect the anti-religious to change if more and more Jews do not do kiruv by going there and bringing back the wayward Jews to Judaism not only teaching them the laws of Kashrut but changing Secular Zionism to religious Zionism, which is the only Zionism that in the long run will last. I have heard these arguments before and they are propagated by people who do have the fear that should they move there they will be destitute, etc. Take a walk in any Super Sol. You have never seen so much food. Not only that, in this global economy, you can live in the Amazon Rain Forest and as long as you have a modem and laptop, can basically conduct business anywhere in the world and still make a living. You want to know why mashiach hasn't come? Because as much as Israel is a secular country, we are committing the same sins as the Meraglim who spoke Lashon Harah about Eretz Yisrael, and as a result we are delaying our own entry into our Promised Land by scaring others from going or at least trying to make Aliyah even if they fail.

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Answered by Aaron Abadi

With all due respect... the Rambam seems to argue on that. He says it the way I wrote it. In any case we don't really know about Moshiach & what will or will not happen. This new religion that calls for all Jews to come to Israel, because it's our land & God said come now so I can bring Moshiach, That is not true! There was not yet such a request by God. Any religious act that is done and is not a request from God, is automatically a form of Avodah Zarah (idol worship). When an honest Jew says, "i'd like to go to Israel to be with my people, be close to our Temple area, get away from all the distractions,, etc..." that is a good reason. When you say stupidity like this, Moshiach Ben Yosef, Religious Zionism, global economy, I realize that Torah is not the predominant influence in your world. Some Rabbis even held that you are not allowed to go back to Israel until the redemption. We don't follow that opinion, but we don't have yet a commandment that says, "Moshiach Ben Yosef is here, come home." Be real! You're only fooling yourself! AA