Re: Kosher Meat

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Answered by Aaron Abadi

Is it an actual belief, or is it just wishfull thinking? Think about it, if they were right, and Moshiach (the Messiah) can be a person who passed away, wouldn't God choose King David or King Chizkiyah, or any of thousands of decendants of David? The more the rest of society shuns the Lubavitch community and makes fun of their Moshiach stuff, the more intense it gets. Let's back off their silly, attention-getting statements and let all of us be Mekarev them, embrace them, and allow them to save face. When the Rebbi died, the immediate reaction by all Lubavitch was that of submission. A feeling of, "Ok. He won't be Moshiach anymore." Not that he could not have been. Just that he died and God had not yet been convinced to send Moshiach. With the exception of a few who were dancing at the funeral, and who were ignored by the masses. After the dust settled, the people had to choose how to face the rest of Orthodox Jewry and their Lubavitch jeering. One way was to look down and take it. They chose a more fun, face-saving routine. They kept the ball rolling. We drove them to it and continue to do that. In reality, it doesn't make a difference who Moshiach is. It isn't a democratic process. Whomever is sent, I'll be right there following him, and so will you. Let us drop our differences and move forward together in serving our God and following his Torah. AA ---------------------- I can't believe what I am reading. Usually, you are a big "kanuei", always fighting for what you believe is the correct halacha and hashkofa in yiddishkeit. You regularly bash Lakewood, Hechsheirim and rabbonim whom you disagree with, which is fine. But when it comes to Lubavitch, you put their belief in a second coming in a sympathetic light? They are questioning one of the very foundations of Yiddishkeit, but you reserve your sharp criticism for those who don't believe in the silk screen process? You consistantly bash R' Shlomo Carlebach for being a mummar Litayavon, which is surely wrong, but these people who are WILLFULLY undermining one of the yesodos of our Emunah get brushed aside as wishful thinkers. You’re so proud of your taking an unpopular stand for what you believe to be right that you once compared your standing out of the crowd to Kalev and Yehoshua, fighting for what is correct when everyone else is silent, but yet you go along with the silent majority when it comes to one of the foundations of yiddishkeit? What would Kalev and Yehoshua think? Not only that, but you somehow manage to assume that THEIR ridiculous and heretical belief is somehow OUR fault. That WE drove them to it and continue to do so. I can't help but wonder what your reaction would be if a bunch of black-hatters in BMG in Lakewood started preaching how R' Shneur Kotler is really Moshiach. I'm confident that your reaction would be completely different. Try to see beyond your agenda, and just call it what it is. It's wishful thinking to assume that the Lubavitch Moshiach movement is just wishful thinking. When they teach children to say "Yichei Adonaneinu Moreinu V'Rabbeinu Melech Hamashiach L'Olam V'Edd" before they start class everyday, do you think those children will grow up assuming that it's just wishful thinking? Would you have said the same thing about the early Christians? They believed a dead person to be Moshiach too, was it just wishful thinking to be brushed aside? Are you really delusional enough to believe that if we are "mekarev" them that they would drop it? You make it sound like it's all in good fun when they go and question the very fundamentals of Judaism. Here's a hypothetical question: A Shochet stopped keeping Shabbos because his Frum brother-in-law made fun of him, can we still eat his meat? After all, WE drove him to stop keeping shabbos! Or another: If I hear a Shochet repeating every morning that Jesus rose to heaven and will return can I assume that it's just wishful thinking and continue eating his meat? Being “Daan L’Zechus” I will assume that you are not familiar with what is really going on in Chabad. If that is the case, you should refrain from commenting on issues that you are unfamiliar with.